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The Nightmare In Orlando

Postby deja vu on Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:03 pm

This horror is becoming all too common in the US, so I decided to look at another part of the world for their view on all of this. They set a horrible record for gun deaths last year and sadly it looks like they will surpass it long before the end of the year.

Fifty innocent people, just having fun and depending on what article you read it's either a hate crime against gays or a terrorist attack by a radical American born muslim. Forget the waiting for facts, as some in DC and running in the upcoming election have come to their own conclusion, to suit their needs. I would hate to see someone use this to benefit themselves, but there is always one that will.

RIght now the victims, the survivors and all their families and friends need our prayers, but at some point the hard questions will need to be answered. Hardest question to answer is "When".

I turned to Australia's Sydney Morning Herald for their articles -

http://www.smh.com.au/world/orlando-sho ... phnp2.html

It was nearing last call. The music was still pounding but the night was drawing to a close at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando when shots rang out.

At first, the crack of gunfire did not really register. "I thought it was firecrackers," said Ray Rivera, 42, who was working at the club as a DJ. He lowered the reggae song he was playing to get a better listen.

The gunfire did not let up. As round after round was fired, people started dropping, some in panic, some because they were wounded, and others because they were dead.


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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... phjfg.html

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has condemned the killing of 50 people in a US gay nightclub as "a murderous attack on gay people" and an assault on freedom.

He warned Australians against complacency in the wake of the worst mass shooting in modern American history, describing the atrocity as "an attack on all of us". And he conveyed Australians' deepest sympathies, condolences and solidarity to the victims and their families.

"This was a murderous attack on gay people in this nightclub. It was clearly directed by a murderous hatred of gay people," Mr Turnbull told reporters.

"This is a vile attack on freedom. But as I said earlier, it is an attack on all of us."


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http://www.smh.com.au/comment/orlando-s ... phrpr.html

In December last year Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik armed themselves with AR-15s - the same type of weapon used to kill 50 people in Orlando - and murdered 14 people at a Christmas party in San Bernardino, California, in what was soon classified as a terrorist attack.

Over 40,000 Americans are dying each year partly because the they live in a society in which it is more politically viable to propose banning Muslims than regulate gun sales.

The following day Republicans in Congress blocked a bill that would have banned people who were on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. The National Rifle Association opposed the ban on the grounds the list might contain mistakes, and some people might unfairly have their right to bear arms infringed upon.
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Re: The Nightmare In Orlando

Postby CielOnTap on Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:56 pm

There was another shooting in Florida-a second man seemed to have targeted Voice singer, Christina Grimmie. After the concert,
the singer was doing an autograph session when the man opened fire. The singer's brother tackled the man, who
shot himself dead. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/christina-grimmie-dead-1.3630587

Very sad situations for the people of Florida.
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Re: The Nightmare In Orlando

Postby keychain on Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:53 pm

Adam Levine has offered to foot the funeral bill for slain singer Christina Grimmie, her brother says. “I found out this morning that Adam Levine personally called my mother and said he will pay for the funeral and her plane flight, and I was blown away,” her brother Marcus announced on Facebook.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... -says.html

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While Democrats have largely been emphasising the need for gun control and protections for the LGBT community in the aftermath of the Orlando massacre, Republicans have almost universally been emphasising something else - fighting terrorism.

"We have to destroy the Islamic State," Florida Governor Rick Scott said on CNN when asked what can be done to prevent another shooting like this. Republicans have plenty of evidence to make their case that Orlando was, above all else, an attack rooted in radical Islamic philosophy.

The gunman pledged allegiance to Isis (Islamic State) while holding four hostages in a bathroom. The FBI said they see no indication the plot was directed abroad, but they did say the shooter was radicalised. President Barack Obama said it appears to be a case of "homegrown extremism". But what can or might Congress - which is controlled by Republicans who are emphasising terrorism and radical Islam - do to to stop it?


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11656064

Sooner or later the Republicans will have to deal with the gun issue. If Trump wins and there is another home grown terror attack with that weapon, they will have no where to hide. Arming all citizens hasn't worked yet and according to news flashes there are over 3.3 million of those particular weapon floating around the US. That scares the heck out of me.
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Re: The Nightmare In Orlando

Postby trailblaze on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:21 pm

Orlando gunman Omar Mateen's wife knew he was planning a mass shooting, went on location scouting trips, accompanied her husband to buy ammunition and never warned authorities, new reports claim.

The only thing Noor Zahi Salman did to prevent the worst gun massacre in US history was try to talk her husband out of it, FBI sources told NBC and ABC. Salman, 30, admitted she was with Mateen, 29, when he bought his ammunition and holster. And she drove him to Pulse nightclub and other target scenes - including Walt Disney World - "because he wanted to scope them out".

In fact, they visited Disney World more than once to survey the area before Mateen opted for Pulse, law enforcement sources told CBS. However, Salman never made any attempts to contact authorities about the impending terror attack.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=11656728

If this turns out to be true, she should be charged as an accessory to 49 murders and over 50 attempted murders. No mercy for this act and allowing it to happen. The moment he left for the club, she had the time to tell police and save those victims from harm.
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Re: The Nightmare In Orlando

Postby keychain on Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:27 pm

Some initial commentary about the attack ignored its blatant homophobia and instead focused on the Islamist extremism that has been dominating headlines. ISIS, which has claimed Omar Mateen’s allegiance posthumously, became the convenient culprit. Focusing on extremist ideology — an ideology that is deeply homophobic, as well as intolerant of anyone else who doesn’t conform to its world view — seemingly makes it easier for some to swallow this senseless act than having to come face-to-face with the persistent existence of homophobia within our own culture.

Later reports have suggested Mateen was a regular at Pulse and might have been a self-loathing gay. This would not change the homophobic nature of the attack. Rather, it would serve to highlight how systemic and pervasive homophobia can be internalized — perhaps even leading someone to be confused to the point of claiming to act on behalf of a group that would have killed him — and is further evidence of the important need to address the LGBTQ+ community’s rightful place within our society.

http://montrealgazette.com/opinion/colu ... inst-lgbtq


The US media does need to open the door and allow the idea that this was plain and simple. A hate crime nothing else, not ISIS based, not another islamic militant, just pure hate and he targeted the gay community. As more information comes out it is becoming clear it was terrorism, but not the kind the Trumps of the world have been trying to hammer home, just home grown hate. The officials from the top on down, immediately decided it was ISIS based horror, because he was muslim and now they need to back track to the idea of just hate for a community. One that it seems he was struggling within himself. Instead of seeking therapy to work on his struggle, he lay in wait and then 50 innocent people paid the ultimate price.

We are on this beautiful planet for a short time, why can't we just live in peace and agree to disagree. If you are struggling seek help, violence is never an answer.
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