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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby CielOnTap on Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:01 pm

Harper buys time, coalition firms up
BRIAN LAGHI , STEVEN CHASE and GLORIA GALLOWAY AND DANIEL LEBLANC

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

November 29, 2008 at 12:49 AM EST

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper sought to rescue his government from a historic defeat Friday by delaying for one week a confidence vote that could usher into power an unprecedented coalition of Liberals and New Democrats.

The postponement followed a day of talks between Liberals and New Democrats about forming an alliance that could have taken the reins of power from Mr. Harper's Tories as early as Monday.

In a dramatic end-of-day appearance, Mr. Harper used the government's parliamentary prerogative to delay two crucial confidence votes, either of which could have defeated the Tories.

The events may also presage a constitutional crisis, with the Prime Minister Friday challenging the legitimacy of Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion – set to step down in May – becoming head of government.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081128.wcoalition29/BNStory/politics/home?cid=al_gam_mostview

More about-face in the media by the Conservatives. Imagine making hay of your political party on a Friday afternoon.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby CielOnTap on Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:03 pm

More political hot-potato, this time from the Quebec election campaign:

QUEBEC ELECTION
ADQ brandishes pension issue in hopes it will derail Liberal winRHÉAL SÉGUIN

November 29, 2008

QUEBEC -- The political uncertainty in Ottawa combined with troubling allegations involving Quebec's major pension fund are playing havoc with the province's election campaign.

Just when Liberal Leader Jean Charest appeared to be coasting to victory with a strong lead in public opinion polls, his campaign got sideswiped by accusations he hid valuable information that could jeopardize the retirement income of thousands of Quebec pensioners.

Yesterday, Action Démocratique du Québec Leader Mario Dumont reiterated his charges that Mr. Charest's demand for higher returns on investments caused the province's giant pension fund, the Caisse de dépôt et placement, to make reckless investment decisions. The $155-billion pension fund is said to have lost billions of dollars in asset-backed commercial paper investments and a recent sell-off of stocks to increase liquidity in response to the current market meltdown.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081129.QUEBEC29/TPStory/TPNational/Quebec/
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby smitty on Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:09 pm

Also when you think of it the Liberals with Dion as leader & ready to give up his post (obviousy next thing to what so many call "a lame duck") wants to vote with the NDP (what some Americans often thought was the Communist party since it is so left winged). Are planning to gang togeather to down the Conservatives & so form a sort of coalition Govt.

I simply cannot believe that Dion would become the Prime Minister of Canada as the Liberals decide on who will become the leader of the Liberal party--------very questionable belief or aim.

Or that the NDP leader will become the Prime Minister of Canada especially when they are all for unions to save the tree sort of people & naturally so Left Winged.

Are we actually looking for a prize screw-up in a Federal Govt due to a power-take-over rather then being voted by the people of Canada???????
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby CielOnTap on Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:21 pm

Let Jack Layton be Prime Minister for the coalition, so Ignatieff and Rae don't trip over each other to be Dion's stand-in until the party leadership vote next May. After all, Layton did say "I'm running to be your Prime Minister," or words to that effect.

I think Canadians would accept a 90-day coalition. Look at how Mr. Harper and company spent $300million for this past election. The money could have gone to various communities but no, CPCs say no money, stay the course, etc.

*More-I would want the coalition agreement to state that past politicians i.e. Chretien and Broadbent don't get to be involved in the construction of the agreement for any pay or perk beyond a cafeteria lunch or two. They had their turns in the taxpayers' pockets.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby deja vu on Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:34 pm

Harper blinked:

Tories reverse plans to end party funding

The opposition refused to back down from plans to form a Liberal-NDP coalition government on Saturday,
even as the governing Conservatives announced they will withdraw their controversial proposal to end public
subsidies for political parties.

As part of an economic update tabled this week, the government proposed eliminating the roughly $28 million
in public subsidies that political parties receive for each vote they garner in federal elections. But in a stunning
reversal, the government said Saturday it will shelve the proposal, which had infuriated the opposition and
threatened to topple the government.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1011574

Guess the reality check finally hit him. Or at least until he cooks up another stupid idea.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby CielOnTap on Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:27 pm

Team Harper has released a secret tape of an NDP meeting that was recorded before the fiscal update was released, according to daily newspapers in Canada.

Apparently, the Conservatives have not read the laws that apply to not being allowed to record calls. Team Harper is losing the public relations show. Perhaps they ought to be placed in Bad Optics 101 next time-the party keeps digging itself into holes.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby CielOnTap on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:06 pm

Grits to tell Gov. Gen. they can form government
By BRUCE CHEADLE, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Last Updated: 1st December 2008, 3:24pm

OTTAWA — Stephane Dion is poised to advise the Governor General that he has the confidence of the House of Commons to form government should the Conservatives fall.

The Liberal leader is sending a letter to Michaelle Jean today advising that the Liberals and NDP — backed by the Bloc Quebecois — have reached a deal to form a coalition government.

The opposition plans to vote down the minority Tory government next Monday.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2008/12/01/7592811.html

Another article on this story indicated the coalition government would be 2-1/2 years long. Much more than the 90days I had hoped for but let's see if another election or a constructive government come out of the efforts.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby deja vu on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:47 pm

Liberal coalition could make Canada a colony of Quebec

Having been handed a political gift by Stephen Harper, the Liberal party appears to be in the process
of doubling it and handing it back.

The Prime Minister's dastardly plan to hobble the opposition by ending their access to taxpayer subsidies
has blown up in his face, much as it always does when evil geniuses try to take over the world. Outside agents
in the form of Jean Chretien and Ed Broadbent emerged unexpectedly and managed to galvanize a pair of
listless opposition caucuses, which have now convinced themselves voters didn't really want to re-elect
Mr. Harper's Conservatives to a stronger mandate in October; what they wanted was a wildly unstable
coalition headed by a Liberal leader and stuffed with New Democrats, the whole unwieldy mess beholden
to Gilles Duceppe's separatists for its survival.


http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/12/01/kelly-mcparland-liberal-coalition-could-make-canada-a-coony-of-quebec.aspx


The FEAR MONGERING begins. Not surprised its the National Post suggesting this. They do support Harper
no matter what he does. Even shooting himself in the foot with his latest scheme cant alter their support.

What part of you only have a MINORITY GOVT not a MAJORITY did Harper not understand?

The agreement was just signed and now it lands in the Governor Generals lap. Wonder what side of the coin
she will land on? This agreement means no elections for 2 1/2 years. That would be a nice change.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby deja vu on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:03 am

The news has been reporting that Harper tried this 4 years ago as the opposition trying to bring
Paul Martins Liberal govt down. Even sent the letter to the Governor General at that time,
Adrienne Clarkson, the same type of letter Dion has sent to the present GG Michelle Jean. Funny how
he attacks the coalition about having the Bloc as an observer only, trying to give the impression the
Bloc is running the show when the fact is they will hold no seats in the coalition and are more of an
observer giving an opinion. He fails to mention he talked to the bloc about his coalition 4 years
ago. Wonder how much of his coalition they would have run?

He has other issues added on now, not only fighting to keep his job but he may be investigated by
the RCMP for wiretapping and then giving the tape to the press.

Hes arrogant, a hypocrite and has an ego that goes unchecked. His promises less than 2 months ago are
worthless, instead of trying to play nice with the other kids on the hill, he tried to wipe the parties out.

Never a dull moment in Canuck politics.
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Re: Canadian Political Watch

Postby smitty on Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:16 am

As of now & for the next while Canadians are in a bit of a screw-up most will not be able to imagine or fathom what is going on for the Conservative Party won by a Minority again & the smaller opposition parties of the Liberal, New Democratic party to the Block Quebec are going to try or possibly take over as the COALITION Govt.

Strange things is that the Liberals were looking around for a Leader of their party as Dion realized he was usless as the leader of the Liberals, to also the one group that wants nothing to do with Canada other then, free monies from Canada or better still to have its own country, being the Bloc Quebec, along with the extreme leftist New Democtatic Party have all agreed on present Liberal leader called Dion as the Prime Minister of Canada till the Liberals can come up with a proper to Dion since he wants to drop out. Does sound a bit mixed up I will fully agree.

Watch Canada sink in this oncoming mess of a Federal Coalition Government.

Most of us Canadians have never lived through a mess like above. Mind you one was called in 1920, but how many Cdns are alive now that can remember what went on? One would have to be 108 yrs or older to have even been of voting age when the screw-up was in 1920.

Believe me I have no idea of what is it going to be like living as a Cdn after this coalition govt runs things for a while & later on to have a regular Govt voted in & over later. Those years ahead do not sound ideal to me.
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