Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Postby deja vu on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:56 pm

A good question when you consider what has and hasn't been going on there for a long time. It's become a sad place that does little despite the show of discussions. What they stood for in the beginning seems to have fallen by the wayside. We all know the saying: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, but this is ridiculous. Dictators have no business chairing a committee on Human Rights when they abuse them every minute of the day.

Russia and China have a veto and maybe it's either time to end that practice or give all UN members the same right. Level the playing field a bit. When you think about it, what good does the Security Council really do?

Should the US consider the idea of leaving as well? Join Canada and start working outside of the box. Will Canada leave, who knows, but with this Conservative Government anything is possible.


From the National Post:


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/06 ... y-mp-says/


Below: This is from a Yahoo article about the subject. Problem is I can't link to the story, they just never work.So I will quote from the article. I will include a link from the National Post on the subject. Both articles are based on what a Federal Conservative had to say on the subject.

Just look at some of the ridiculous and mind-blowing decisions recently made by the UN:

Last summer, they named North Korea chair of a UN disarmament conference. That's North Korea, a country that has breached a number of arms embargoes and continues to make threats to expand its nuclear weapons program.

In September, the UN allowed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to address the General Assembly and spread untruths about the United States.

In November, while the international community was dealing with the human rights atrocities taking place in Syria at the hands of the Assad regime, UNESCO welcomed the embattled Arab country to its human rights committee.

And in February, Russia and China were allowed to veto a security council resolution that could have led to international military intervention in Syria.
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Re: Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Postby smitty on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:13 pm

deja vu , that thread of yours with a bit from the newspaper makes anyone sit up & starting to think about our future. Some times I REALLY have to wonder about this United Nations & how in some cases they are so far off sensible thinking.
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Re: Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Postby CielOnTap on Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:57 pm

I find it odd that some of the themes or subjects promoted as Year of ... by the U.N. really hidden mostly. If the occasion is marked by a postage stamp in one's own country i.e. Canada, people seem unaware of such things as International Year of the Cooperatives. Apparently 2012 is such a year and I learned by way of an article mentioning a small new senior's housing co-op, with mention of the UN theme.
http://www.thespec.com/community/article/740488--local-co-op-wins-national-award

The UN page explaining the theme:
http://social.un.org/coopsyear/

Inner City Press is an online press presence that reports on the news gathered, heard, or discussed at the U.N. U.N. projects and staff/contractor issues have the chances to be the focus of articles just as much as impromptu interviews with official representatives of UN countries and sources close to discussions not wishing to be named but knowing what is going on in offices at the UN.
http://www.innercitypress.com/ Oh, it seems there are people within UN trying to prevent Inner City Press from getting its accreditation renewed because of reports done on individuals that drew attention to their actions.
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Re: Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Postby deja vu on Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:56 pm

The UN continues to hit new lows. It lost it's way a long time ago and now it's more of a home for dictatorships. Why are they stll operating when the dictatorships seem to be the only ones benefitting from it. The UN is in my mind a totally useless entity and should be disbanded. They are not doing any good so why bother paying the high yearly fees. They are a disgrace to the millions of victims that the UN is supposed to be protecting. Syria has no business there, yet are rewarded while killing their own people for wanting freedom.


http://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/201 ... snubs.html

From Wikipedia -

The United Nations (UN; French: Organisation des Nations unies, ONU) is an international organization whose stated aims are facilitating cooperation in international law, international security, economic development, social progress, human rights, and achievement of world peace. The UN was founded in 1945 after World War II to replace the League of Nations, to stop wars between countries, and to provide a platform for dialogue. It contains multiple subsidiary organizations to carry out its missions.



What a joke it has become. None of the above is a reality, they have gone in the other direction. Murdering dictators as heads of Human Rights panels is a slap in the face to those that suffer under them. Syria gets to keep it's post as head of the UN’s Special “Committee of 24” on decolonization.

But a vestige of anti-colonialism remains – the UN’s Special “Committee of 24” on decolonization, which keeps an eye on 16 “non-self-governing territories” like the Falklands, the British Virgin Islands, Gibraltar and the Western Sahara. And who better to oversee their progress toward freedom and civil rights than Bashar Assad of Syria?

In one of those ironies that make the world body such an easy target for its foes, Assad’s envoy Bashar Ja’afari – a French-educated career diplomat -- was unanimously reappointed this month as the committee’s rapporteur, charged with upholding democratic rights in the last outposts of colonial rule. Assad’s regime – now in a war that has left 70,000 dead, and counting – has made much of the event, having few international plaudits to boast of. Predictably, U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice called it “revolting and absurd,” and the Geneva-based UN Watch added, “indefensible and an insult to Syria’s victims.”


Ja’afari is in good company at committee meetings. Among the 28 or so members are colleagues from Iran, Ethiopia, Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela. How did they all get there? Not, as some UN foes believe, because of a conspiratorial coup at the world body by human rights abusers. It’s a much more mundane combination of diplomatic entrenchment, laxity and cronyism that is endemic in its arcane system.
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Re: Is The U.N. Irrelevant?

Postby gossamer on Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:56 pm

The president of Sudan, wanted for years by the International Criminal Court on charges of genocide and other crimes in the Darfur conflict, set off a growing storm of anger on Wednesday with his plan to attend the United Nations General Assembly, as human rights advocates urged governments to oppose the visit and the court’s judges asked the United States to arrest him if he dares to come.

American officials confirmed on Tuesday that the Sudanese leader, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, had submitted a visa request to attend the General Assembly, which runs through the end of the month. As the host country, the United States is obliged to grant visas to foreign heads of state or representatives who wish to attend the General Assembly, regardless of their reputations or any disputes the American government may have with them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/world ... .html?_r=0

But Mr. Bashir’s case is different because he would be the first visitor to the United Nations with a standing warrant for his arrest by the International Criminal Court at The Hague. The court has accused him of criminal responsibility for atrocities, including genocide, committed in the western Darfur region of Sudan, where more than 200,000 people were killed and more than two million uprooted by almost a decade of fighting between the government and rebels.



This is a no brainer, they are irrelevant and useless when this kind of crap happens. So why is the UN allowing this, when there is a warrant by The Hague for this dictator? Why let him in the country and then give him a voice of legitimacy by speaking at the UN?
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