US 2016 Election

Post by **deja vu** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:23 am

no1home · Post by **no1home** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:27 pm

I don't know who most of them are either. These are just my personal views on the very crowded WH run for the big chair. What I don't get is why are millions if not billions being spent for 1 1/2 years of this. What a waste, so many people that most have not heard of before, and with Trump and Bush shouting at each other, the rest are buried in the back ground. The US system is broken, but not beyond repair. They know it's in serious need of repair, but because it's so easy to manipulate, no one will step up to the plate, instead they use it to their advantage.

All these choices and yet I don't see a strong front runner that would take the country in a good direction. Unless things change drastically I don't see the world beign happy about any of these choices.

Starting with the Dems -

Hillary: not a fan of hers, never have been. Disliked her before the major power outage in the east that affected Canada and the US. Blamed Canada even before anyone knew who caused it, and as it turns out Ohio was the issue. Never heard an apology on that one, then again accuses Canada when 9/11 happened. Tried to say that the terrorists came through Canada, blamed us for letting them in and then it gave them access to the US. She is not the only politician that dumped on Canada even after learning that the US and the US alone was responsible for letting them in after they flew from overseas to the US, never set foot in Canada. Others were already in the US and at least one was enrolled in flight school.

That dislike grew after the Bengazi embassy attacks. She had warnings and still did not increase the security and am sick of her denial of everything, people died that day and she is partially if not fully responsible for the decisions she made. I also think that Bill would be a shadow President, I don't think she is capable of doing this on her own.

Lincoln Chafee: I have heard the name before, but that is about it. Don't remember hearing much about it, one of those invisible politicians if there is such a thing. Seems he can not decide what side of the political fence he lies on. Republican, to Independent to a Democrat, that is a lot of change.

Martin O'Malley: Not a clue about his political life, never heard of him before, another invisible politician. But from what I see on Wiki, I am not impressed with him.

Bernie Sanders;

From Wiki - Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist who admires the Nordic model of social democracy and is a proponent of workplace democracy.[4][10][97] Many commentators have noted the consistency of his views throughout his political career.[98][99] He focuses on economic issues such as income and wealth inequality,[5][100] raising the minimum wage,[101] universal healthcare,[102] reducing the burden of student debt,[103] making public colleges and universities tuition-free by taxing financial transactions,[104] and expanding Social Security benefits.[105] Sanders has become a prominent supporter of laws requiring companies to provide their workers paternity leave, sick leave, and vacation time, noting that such laws have been adopted by almost every developed country.[106] Sanders also advocates bold action to reverse global warming and infrastructure investment in the United States, with "energy efficiency and sustainability" as a prominent goal.[107][108] He is opposed to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.[109]

Can't argue with any of this, but if he did manage to come out on top, he would be hitting a lot of resistance whose ideas would be good for the country.

Jim Webb: Another one I have never heard of and definitely not liking what I read on Wikipedia. Sounds like he has some serious issues with a few things and would not think he would be a good choice for President.

Republicans

Jeb Bush: Spent some time in Florida when he was Governor, was not impressed then or now. Not a carbon copy of brother George, but just as bad when if comes to issues. Do not care for his political views and think even less of his wife who tried to get away with smuggling items into the US so her husband wouldn't find out what she spent. Would have been better just to come clean. Lying to border guards, breaking the law makes me wonder about the character when she thinks it's okay to try. Okay, yes she is not running for office, but I don't think with her ability to lie to federal officials makes her First Lady material either. The other day the TV news showed dueling politicians, with he and Trump trash talking each other.

Ben Carson & Chris Christie: Know almost zip about them, but didn't like what I read on Wiki. I would pass them by, do not think either is Presidential material.

Ted Cruz: A scary mouthpiece that seems to shoot off his mouth and little substance coming out. Sure glad he is not running in Canada, and hope/pray he is not going to make it to the WH. That would be a huge step in the wrong direction.

Carly Fiorina: Based on Wiki information, she is ambitious, but not impressed with how she goes about it. Never heard of it, another invisible politician.

Jim Gilmore: One more I have never heard of. Wiki's information on his reforming the school system seems fine, but when you know zip about a politician and the news is only focused on a small handful with louder megaphones to yell into.

Lindsey Graham & Mike Huckabee: Do not like either of these men, hate their politics and would be an awful choice for the big chair.

Bobby Jindal: All I remember about him is in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and was not impressed by him.

John Kasich: Another one I know nothing about, never heard of him before.

George Pataki: One of those that you know you have heard of him, but not much stuck in the mind about his political life. Seems to love tax cuts, but not all for the good.

Rand Paul: Have heard of him, but know zip about him.Just reading this from Wikipedia, has me believing he would be a horrible choice to be running the country. Way to extreme for my taste.

Paul was assigned to serve on the Energy and Natural Resources, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, Homeland Security and Government Affairs, and Small Business committees.[80] Paul also formed the Senate Tea Party Caucus with Jim DeMint and Mike Lee as its inaugural members.[81] His first legislative proposal was to cut $500 billion from federal spending in one year. This proposal included cutting the Department of Education by 83 percent and the Department of Homeland Security by 43 percent, as well as folding the Department of Energy into the Department of Defense and eliminating the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Seven independent agencies would be eliminated and food stamps would be cut by 30 percent. Under Paul's proposal, defense spending would be reduced by 6.5 percent and international aid would be eliminated.[82] He later proposed a five-year budget plan intended to balance the budget.[83]

Rick Perry: My opinion of him is a loud mouth from Texas, looking to cause as much trouble as he can. I think his political views are not good for the state or the country, extreme never comes out on the winning side.

Marco Rubio: From the information in Wiki, he seems to think the taxpayer piggy bank is his own personal account. Again, one I have never heard of before this.

Rick Santorum: Have heard his name before,but know nothing about him. What I read in Wiki, I don't like the mans political views at all.

Donald Trump: The Donald, hard for anyone to avoid him. Personally I think he is a loud mouth, that loves to yell louder than anyone else, extreme views, but he sure knows how to play the crowd and keep their attention. Not WH material, I think he would be a horrible President.

Scott Walker: Never heard of this man before, but from what I have read on that Wiki link, I am not impressed.

Post by **CielOnTap** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:02 pm

Carly Fiorina-former head of Hewlett-Packard before its value went downhill and there was a merger with Compaq.

I saw a comic strip that mentions Donald Trump in an aspirational way for a panhandler:

A reader of the Hamilton Spectator wrote that the paper needs to provide coverage of Mr. Trump's campaign because he is the best thing to be in US politics.
I have to wonder how much attention US papers are giving to Canada's electoral campaign for federal seats.

up-down · Post by **up-down** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:47 pm

Ciel -
A reader of the Hamilton Spectator wrote that the paper needs to provide coverage of Mr. Trump's campaign because he is the best thing to be in US politics.

Then they are in serious trouble if he is the best they got. Forget God Bless the US, it should be God Help the US when their Presidential hopefuls are off the wall nuts.

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Now it's confirmed. The US has gone off the deep end, lost all sense of reality and totally clueless about the reality that the Politicians keep ignoring. Either the voters are in total denial, head stuck in the sand or have completely lost their minds.

Thanks to the great job of fear mongering, the politicians running for office can spew any nonsense and they seem to believe them. The latest is build a wall across the Canadian border. Judging by what I have read and heard, most Canadians are killing themselves laughing at how ridiculous they are becoming. And I thought The Donald was the worst choice they had among all the bad choices, I was wrong because Gov. Scott Walker is as much a blithering idiot or worse than Donald, if that is possible.

Stupid, clueless, out of touch with reality, just some of the choice words to describe this idea from Walker and The Donald. Certifiably nuts.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), a staunch advocate of beefing up security on the southern border, said Sunday he is open to building a wall on the U.S. border with Canada as well.

The Republican presidential candidate said the idea of building a northern wall was brought up to him during a recent town hall in New Hampshire.

"That is a legitimate issue for us to look at," Walker said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Post by **deja vu** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:50 pm

If he just wanted attention for his campaign, he has succeeded, too bad he sounds crazy.

I am trying to figure out how The Donald and this Walker guy will force Mexico and Canada to pay for it. You want to lock yourself in, you pay the bill.

Eureka · Post by **Eureka** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:09 pm

Sarah Palin is hardly alone in her sense of some threat to the hegemony of English in the United States.

You know the drill -- Jeb Bush answers a question in comfortable Spanish, and Palin, after some perfunctory compliments that Bush's conversational Spanish will be good for connecting to Latinos, gets in that here in the United States we need to "speak American."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/06/opinions/ ... index.html

It is called ENGLISH, not American. The clock is going backwards and that is a dangerous descent.

Well, here we are 200 years later looking at immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries and worrying about English, a language that has had no problem taking over the whole world, but is apparently on the ropes in California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Florida.

Fear mongering seems to be normal in the US now. The wannabe Presidential candidates tell you to fear those that speak another language, that they are the reason the country is going to hell in a hen basket and they believe them. Now it's open season on any one speaking in another language. It's so successful, it seems Americans will believe anything they are told without looking up facts and then when you give them the truth, they become nasty and verbally abusive. Respectful debate has died in the US. My way or the highway has taken over and differences will not be accepted.

Sure, kick out all that are different, but are you ready to pick your own crops 12 hours a day and 7 days a week, clean your offices, your hotel rooms, etc. Diversity is good for society, but it is a dirty word in the US and they seem to truly believe that immigrants are the reason the US is so messed up. Sorry you did this to yourself, you let fear take over and believe all that the politicians try to sell you. The Republicans are doing a good job, especially Trump at making one fear illegal immigrants. They all commit crimes, all are evil and they believe him. Guess it's easier to blame the migrants than the home grown criminals.

A sad state for a country that prides itself on telling other countries to strive for democracy freedom for it's people and accept diversity instead of attacking it. Yet here they are doing just that. Diversity is a dirty word in the US these days.

up-down · Post by **up-down** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:27 pm

Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who insisted he learned lessons from his disastrous 2012 presidential campaign, dropped his second bid for the White House on Friday after just 100 days. "Today, I am suspending my campaign for the presidency of the United States," Perry said in an address in St. Louis that virtually mirrored his standard stump speech until the very end. "Life is good. I am a blessed man." Perry later thanked his supporters in an email, calling on them to back a candidate who embodies the principles of conservatism.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politics/ ... suspended/

Hope he doesn't think that the third time would be the charm. One fear monger gone, hope more follow him out the door. Not much too choose from on either side, hate to say it but they are screwed no matter who gets in.

up-down · Post by **up-down** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:23 pm

Hillary Clinton has broken her longstanding silence over the construction of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, saying at a campaign stop in Iowa that she opposes the controversial project.

The Democratic presidential candidate said the project has become an impediment to efforts to fight climate change.

"I think it is imperative that we look at Keystone pipeline as what I believe it is, a distraction from the important work we have to do to combat climate change," Clinton said. "And unfortunately, from my perspective, one that interferes with our ability to move forward to deal with the other issues. Therefore I oppose it. I oppose it."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/hillary ... -1.3239215

Not a fan, never was and never will be, BUT on this we agree but not for all of the same reasons.

Meanwhile the Canada wall has died now that Republican Candidate Scott Walker has seen the light and has ended his run for the big chair. I can think of a few more that could join him, actually all on both sides and start again, because no matter who gets in, they are screwed.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/canada-wall ... -1.2574374

He talked about building a wall with Canada. What he found was one around the White House.

The barrier to Scott Walker's presidential dreams went up quickly.

I guess the ZERO by his name on polls finally got through.

no1home · Post by **no1home** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:21 am

John Boehner, the Ohio Republican who steered his party to an overwhelming House majority in 2010, told colleagues Friday he's stepping down as Speaker and will leave Congress at the end of October.

The abrupt decision comes after he faced heavy pressure from conservatives to take a harder line on their causes, most recently over defunding Planned Parenthood.

Boehner, who has presided over the House since 2011, explained during a closed-door meeting with Republicans Friday morning that he had only planned to serve two terms as speaker but decided to hold onto his post after then-House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his seat during a primary last year, a Republican lawmaker in the room told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/ ... index.html

Did not see this one coming, doubt many did. Glad to see it happen, but worry about the idea that an even more hard liner will take over. From what the news is saying this morning, he was in the middle ground and many fights with the hard core Conservatives that want to take womens rights back to the dark ages.

Defunding Planned Parenthood, puts millions at risk and if they go after abortion, thousands could die if they are forced back to back alley quacks.

Why are men in the government controlling what women can/can not do with their lives/bodies? Men who feel that they and they alone will decide what we can/can not do, men that do not care to hear anyone elses view point, and attack any that do.

Happy to see Rep. Candidate Scott Walker bowed out, but how many millions did he waste to get zero support?

trailblaze · Post by **trailblaze** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:45 pm

Stupidity runs supreme. I can't believe people are considering these 2 for President.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/republican- ... k3s2s.html

Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is a leading Republican presidential contender, has intensified his defence of gun rights in response to last week's Oregon campus massacre, arguing that the Second Amendment is more sacred than spilled blood.

He also suggested that the victims should have had the courage to attack their assailant, and accused President Barack Obama of politicising the tragedy by embracing the families of the dead.

Unbelievable criticising the victims ducking out of the way and it is so easy to say what you would do, BUT would he actually do it if faced with this terror? I for one doubt it. Putting guns ahead of peoples lives is just as unbelievable.

Then there is Jeb Bush:

Last week, former Florida governor Jeb Bush was criticised for seeming to minimise the mass shooting by saying that "stuff happens" during a discussion about gun violence.

Senator Marco Rubio, of Florida, has insisted that stricter gun laws would prove fruitless because criminals would flout them.

No wonder no one cares anymore, mass murder has been reduced to "stuff happens". They still don't get it, because it's not criminals committing these mass murders, it's the mentally ill that are doing it and still no one is addressing it. They didn't have a criminal record before they became dangerous, no one thought to speak up and keep guns away from them, out of reach, out of the home. Rubio needs to do his homework, because countries with stricter laws, don't have the mass murders that the US has.

SO I guess asking how many more before they actually care to do something is just a waste of time, because the new attitude is "stuff happens".

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