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Postby CielOnTap on Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:25 am

The story link mentions the black box handover to the Malaysian officials is conditional on their handing the boxes over to ICAO authority. So perhaps the officials are Malaysian aviation representatives who know the drill or the separatist leader is trying for publicity again.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17

Postby Rhet-or-Ric on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:39 am

We have a new "Live text" on the BBC site.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28417698

A point about these live threads that BBC does ... it seems that if you know the URL after it has been stopped then you can still access that page for a number of days, maybe a week or more. I don't really know how long they keep those live threads available.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17

Postby CielOnTap on Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:55 pm

The release of passenger bodies and the flight's black box and data recorders was due to the Malaysian Prime Minister's "quiet" behind-the-scenes negotiations that led to direct contact with the separatist leader, who wanted assurance the PM would state the black box was not tampered with.

Under a deal reached this week between the Malaysian government and the rebels, the bodies of many of the crash victims have been transported from Ukraine to the Netherlands, and the rebels have handed over the plane’s so-called black boxes, the flight recorders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/world/asia/australia-malaysia-airlines-flight-ukraine.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHeadline&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Given how the Ukrainian and Russian governments have been more busy with public relations through the media than actually making the crash site available to the investigators, it is a Malaysian achievement that led to the bodies being released and eventually taken to the Netherlands, which received the first group of coffins yesterday at Eindhoven air base.
The Netherlands will conduct identification of the remains and repatriation where possible.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/24/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-bodies-taken-to-netherlands.html?action=click&contentCollection=Asia%20Pacific&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17

Postby CielOnTap on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:43 am

Saw mention on television this morning that there is a convoy of trucks moving the some of the plane wreckage through Germany (only permitted at night) towards the Netherlands. Will find an article link on this current aspect of the recovery process:

(there's a video clip of the convoy as well as footage from the wreckage site in the Ukraine)
http://www.euronews.com/2014/12/08/mh17-wreckage-convoy-reaches-germany
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 (recovery)

Postby CielOnTap on Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:17 pm

The Dutch government has created a committee to look into known intelligence that the Netherlands intelligence employees had about the conflict in the Ukraine prior to the downing of flight MH17.

http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/01/06/dutch-security-services-grilled-mh17/

An item about visual indicators that there was a missile strike at the plane:
http://www.nltimes.nl/2014/12/23/new-mh17-photos-suggest-surface-air-missile-launch-separatists/
It involves a series of three high resolution photos taken shortly after the firing of the missile and immediately after the plane crashed. The photos were taken in the vicinity of the crash site. The first two pictures show a vertical plume, which seems to come from where the missile was launched. The third picture shows a large black plume of smoke, probably from where the plane come down. RTL Nieuws did not publish the photos, to protect the privacy of the photographer.


While the Dutch authorities have turned down a request by relatives of 10 non-Dutch passengers for the UN to take over the investigation, work continues on determining what caused MH17's crash.
http://rt.com/news/212895-mh17-dutch-reject-un/
The Dutch experts said they will piece together the remains of the Boeing on a frame to determine exactly the cause of the crash.

Although some parts of the jet are missing and others were destroyed by fire, Safety Board head Tjibbe Joustra said that will not be a problem.

According to Joustra, the reconstruction will take months and a final report on the reason for the crash is not expected until mid-2015.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 (recovery)

Postby southernfry on Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:23 pm

Ukrainian authorities had "sufficient reason" to close the airspace over conflict-stricken eastern Ukraine before the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, according to the findings of a Dutch investigation into the crash.

The Boeing 777 was heading from Amsterdam to Malaysia when it was shot down on July 17, 2014, over Ukrainian territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists. All 298 people aboard the aircraft died in the crash.

The Dutch Safety Board (DSB) said whatever happened to the plane happened quickly, leaving the passengers dazed or unconscious. And while it's not clear if anyone died in midair, no one could have survived the plane's impact with the ground, the DSB said.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/europe/mh ... ch-report/

So what, their families can sue for this, even if they find the person that pushed the button?

Putin will never speak of it, or admit he had a helping hand in making sure the rebels received the weapons.
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