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Post by deja vu » Fri May 04, 2012 2:17 pm

The hot weather is coming and already kids and pets are suffering or dying from the heat. Every summer more die from being left in a car. Even with the windows rolled down for air, the temperature in the car is dangerously high. Pets left in the yard all day can run out of fresh water and no shade to cool off in. It wont hurt to turn on the outside tap just a little and let water keep filling up their bowl.

Enjoy the great weather, but take precautions. Don't forget to keep bottled water and suntan lotion close by and have a safe and enjoyable summer folks.
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Post by deja vu » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:56 pm

Labour Day Weekend has arrived.

A fun time, but don't throw your common sense out the window. Enjoy it whether you have a home vacation or hit the open road. Don't drink, text while driving. Your not the only one on the roads and as history shows It just takes one driver error to destroy a lot of other lives.

Stay safe and enjoy.
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Post by smitty » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:47 pm

deja vu. Mary loves her dog. She found a stray one some yrs back & suddenly she had something better then a divorced husband (three times I will have you know). So she did not turn up at the range for h/gun shooters for around a month. FINALLY she arrived with this lovely Border Collie that we all love. When she parks her truck it is in the shaded area of some trees, windows open & constately she checks to make sure about this dog. Most of us are found parked in the sunshine.

Unfortunately someone notices a child or a dog lock inside a cage (sland word meaning a car or a truck to us m/c riders). All are left wondering about the stupidity of the parents of the child or the pet like a cat or a dog. Mary & I were chatting before she took over as the Range Officer when she saw a box of shotgun shells at the Trap section, so we wanted to see & yes it was 3 not used 12 gauge trap shell loads & Mary had in mind to keep it inside then to offer it to the Trap Chairman.

Only along comes this even younger border Collie & believe me it was putting on all the charm & love of us bulky humans. A bit later we found out the Caretaker had this puppy so back to them & do not let it me wandering around when others were trap shooting, just for its savety. True it would soon become accustomed to shotguns going off, but not the ideal place.

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Post by sharkeys » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:29 pm

Keeping in mind all the stories about tots or dogs that expire or really come close to it in hot cars, I did report to a store about one car in a parking lot. There were two small dogs in the SUV and after 5min of being in the area, checked to see if someone had gone back to the car. No. Made certain to hike over to the Walmart greeter who got someone to page the driver of the SUV by plate and car description. While no one replied, we happened to look towards the lot and saw a male adult and younger boy near the car. The greeter remembered talking to the man when he came into the store!

Not a dog person myself, so I thought about the basic need for living creatures to have some basic comfort. That evening, it was plenty hot enough still to be uncomfortable in a car without refreshing air. The SUV windows were open a smidge on both sides but the dogs had fur-got to consider what the temperature felt like to them in the car.

I'll keep a mind to say something sooner if I see the same pet situation again.
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Post by smitty » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:04 pm

I must admit that quite often when I am at a friend's home they have one large dog that barks a lot warning off anyone that might break in, but then it remembers me. That family keep the dog under control or I drop in for a cup of tea then again this dog tends to obey the rules. They had a larger dog some yrs ago & when outside it just had to pick up an acorn wanting us to throw it & return it. We had to easy off for it was getting to old & the heart did not need to much enthusiasm AND in later years it finally passed away. The one now, simply does not have the good things that the other dog had in being friends to all.

You treat a dog of any size & after a while it thinks more like us humans. I have some good tales on where after a while my parents & I knew just spelling something was enough to have the dog think in a manner of where it HAD BEEN IN THE WRONG.

I think of Roger, the dog Terry lost, that would sit right beside him when he was watching a TV program for it felt more like ANOTHER human.

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Post by deja vu » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:53 pm

WAKE UP PARENTS AND PET OWNERS!!

We are barely into summer and kids are dying across N. America this season. Either forgotten in the car or a pool with no safety features and a curious child looking to play in the water and parents in the house not watching a young child.

A 3 year old in Edmonton is dead after being left in the car outside her home, an Ontario girl is fighting for her life after being left unattended and falling into the family pool. An Ontario boy died from being left in the car. All within days of each other, but still no one is paying attention.

In the US, 7 kids died from being left in the car in May.

No one is being charged with these crimes and maybe it's about time they were. Letting them off the hook each time because of a so called accident isn't waking them up. More are dying despite the warnings about the dangers so it's time to start charging them, maybe only then will others pay attention and prevent another death instead of waiting until the next one.

The police need to step up to the plate and start holding seminars with parents. It should be mandatory for all that will be in charge of a child. Teach them what can happen, let them see the end results of leaving them in cars or no safety around a pool.

It should be mandatory to have a proper fence and gate around pools and can't buy one without it. Forget waiting for the parents to add it in after the fact, the deaths show they are not doing that.

I just don't get it, what will it take to stop these needless deaths? Maybe this sobering stats page will help. It's from the US
Heatstroke Deaths of kids left in vehicles site.

http://ggweather.com/heat/
Total number of U.S. heatstroke deaths of children left in cars, 2013: 15
Total number of U.S. heatstroke deaths of children left in cars, 2012: 32
Total number of U.S. heatstroke deaths of children left in cars, 1998-present: 575
If you really need to take your pet with you on your outings, then make sure he/she can go in the stores with you. Otherwise why take them for a ride that can lead to death when left in a car? They are just as much at risk at kids, so if you don't need to take them let them stay in the cool of home. More than one has died so far this year and I found it odd that some owners were annoyed when the car was broken into to rescue the animal. The "I was just gone a minute" excuse isn't working yet they keep using it. The car window is more important to them then the animal suffering inside. If you can't take proper care then don't have a pet.
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Re: Hot Time In The City Or Countryside

Post by CielOnTap » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:07 am

A Markham, ON mother was charged for leaving her toddler daughter in a vehicle that was parked at a plaza lot. Police responded to a citizen's call about the toddler and got her out of the vehicle. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/06 ... n_car.html

Considering that Boise, Idaho person proved it was hot enough to bake cookie dough over a few hours inside a car with a giant thermometer on display this week...parents need to realize we are bodies of water and little bodies heat up faster than adult bodies.

I'm going to add something about animals-don't let kids or adults torment wildlife even if it's a pigeon. The creatures get hot too and probably want a break from flying away all the time. Let them be. Read a recent story about kids whose parents did nothing to stop a pigeon's wing break and feather loss in a park (the kids were torturing the bird). An adult columnist got involved and the bird was taken to an animal rescue, but the columnist made sure the kids and parents got an earful.
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Post by CielOnTap » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:00 am

The grandmother of the Milton, ON boy who died in a car on a hot day, has been charged on two counts in relation to the death.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/ ... death.html
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:05 pm

Oakville, Ontario was the location of the latest reported incident of child left in car by an adult. The man responsible was made aware that others knew about the baby when he heard the announcement on the store public address system. He got a strong response by members of the public who were at the car. Now the man has been charged.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/38938 ... rking-lot/
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Post by deja vu » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:48 pm

A 12-year-old Arkansas girl has contracted parasitic meningitis, a rare and deadly disease caused by a brain-eating amoeba, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Arkansas Department of Public Health.

This is the first known case of parasitic meningitis in years, according to Medical Daily. It is caused by the amoeba Naegleria fowleri and is typically found in freshwater or soil. It enters the human body through the nose, where it then moves to the brain, typically causing death.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/07/2 ... latestnews

The Arkansas Department of Health has closed down Willow Springs Water Park in Arkansas, where it is believed that Kali contracted the disease, according to Medical Daily. A case of parasitic meningitis in 2010 was thought to be connected to the same park.
Why didn't they go a step further and fix the problem instead of reopening it. Now a little girl is fighting for her life because the problem was not taken care of. I see a huge lawsuit from this one.

The Owners statement rings hollow because they did nothing the first time and playing catch up now. Sad that a child has to suffer due to the inaction of adults.
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:30 pm

Winter cold temperatures are another reason for parents and guardians to keep aware that children can be affected in very few minutes. A Toronto area man in Ontario, Canada has been charged for leaving his sleeping toddler child in his car while he went shopping in a Costco store. The temperatures with windchills have been in the -20C to -30C range this week in Toronto and much of Southern Ontario as it is a very cold winter this month.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/01/29/da ... -at-costco

If you are in charge of young children, be responsible for their well-being and safety. Don't leave kids alone in cars.
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Post by deja vu » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:11 pm

Here we go again. Another summer of hot weather and people are still not getting the message.

Multiple stories of pets and kids being left in hot cars. So far this summer at least one child has died and his father is up on charges. Too many pets suffering in cars and having to be rescued, some grateful others angry at the sight of a broken window.

Your pet doesn't need to go shopping with you, just to be left in a hot car, no ventilation, no water. How many more kids and pets will die before getting the message? Perhaps charging parents is the only answer. Not little fines, I'm talking a hefty fine and jail for leaving a child or pet in the car to suffer.

WAKE UP PEOPLE, Leave your pets at home if you are going shopping and don't forget or leave your kids in a car while you go shopping. Why don't you take them with you when you go to the store. One mother said she was gone only a minute, yet video shows she was in a mall for over 40 minutes and her child ended up in the hospital. For God's sake if you don't want to take them into the store with you then leave shopping until you have a sitter for the child. It's not worth a childs life to take them only to be left in the car.

Pets are better left at home, unless taking them to a park or the vets, leaving them in a car while you are gone, is dangerous, reckless and should be criminal.
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Post by yukon » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:01 pm

Speaking of messages, the 7 tips in this article are important for all to know when the heat comes a knocking.

Even moose feel the heat, so pets and humans need to take precautions.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.2705325
7 tips for staying safe in hot weather

Here are six tips from B.C.'s medical health officers on staying well in hot weather:

1. Stay hydrated

Don't wait until you are thirsty to drink more water; check with your doctor if there are limits on the amount of fluid you are allowed.

MORE | 4 summer hydration tips served up

2. Keep cool

Don't rely on fans alone when the air around you is also hot. Use cool mists or showers, spend time in air-conditioned rooms and buildings if you can, or make a visit to a pool or public water park.

3. Dress smart

Wear loose, light-weight clothing and shade yourself with a wide-brimmed hat and sunglasses. Stay in the shade or use sunscreen to avoid sunburn.

4. Get everyone out of the car

Children and pets should never be left alone in a parked car: Temperatures can rise to 52 C within 20 minutes in a vehicle when the outside temperature is 34 C, and leaving the windows cracked open won't make enough of a difference to make it safe.

5. Look out for each other

Check on your neighbours who are older, who live alone or who have difficulty leaving their homes, to make sure they are coping.

If you see anyone who isn't dealing with the heat, move them to a shady spot, get them hydrated, and call for help.

Someone who has a high body temperature and is either unconscious, confused or has stopped sweating may be suffering from heatstroke and 911 should be called immediately.

6. Stay informed

Read, watch or listen to local news and weather channels for updated weather statements and warnings, and call public services such as B.C.'s HealthLink BC at 8-1-1 for information on heat-related illness.

7. Just chill

If you have to do tiring work or exercise outdoors, try an get it done in the early morning or later in the evening. If you must exert yourself, drink two to four glasses of a non-alcoholic drink every hour.
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:39 pm

An adult uses video and social media to convey just how hot a car interior can get for adults. The purpose is to show viewers that it's not safe for any person to be in a hot car.
The man wanted to raise awareness of the issue after the recent reporting of a toddler left in a car and his father has been charged in the child's death.
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:50 am

It's hot/humid and feeling over 30C here in Southern Ontario. Fortunately a small breeze is stirring the air. While laundry might not complain about the heat, people and pets will.
Moderate your outdoor activities between 11am and 4pm-save shopping errands for cooler hours if you can.
Wear a brimmed hat if you must be outside during the hottest hours. Have water available for drinking.
Have more than one water bowl available indoors and outdoors for your pets; change the water as needed to keep it cool.
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Post by guitarblues » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:35 pm

Another adult thought leaving her child in a car on a hot day was ok. Why did she not take HER child into the store with her?
http://fox13now.com/2014/08/05/mother-a ... m-hot-car/
hen officers arrived, they said the mother told them she left her child in the car because the girl was sleeping.

Authorities said during all the commotion the child vomited and witnesses said they had removed the child’s shirt because “it was wet.”

Officers said the temperature inside the vehicle was 89 degrees when they got to the scene.
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Post by CielOnTap » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:07 pm

In Georgia, United States-the father of a toddler (left in father's hot car for most of the day ) has been charged with murder in the his son's death. The toddler died in the June 18 incident.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/justin-ross ... car-death/
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:58 pm

Parents in warmer US states continue to remain unaware of their little kids in their cars-why, is the radio on or the child's asleep? Stop with the explanation that you thought someone else was minding your children! Put a stuffed toy in the front seat with you after you put your child into his or her carseat.

Unfortunately, some little kids died in hot cars recently. Two made it out alive due to age or an adult passerby alert to the child's presence in a car. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/a ... car/49901/
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:05 pm

A Florida humane society experienced a death of a dog that was not known to be in a car when a volunteer came to pick up another dog in the same car.

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/a ... car/57246/
A volunteer took the dogs to a transport van. During that time, the van was left running and the dogs were kept cool while a volunteer was called to take the van back to the society.

Another volunteer came to pick up the dogs, but thought only one was being transported.

Rollin's crate was only accessible from the back of the van, while Willow's crate was accessible from the side door.
When another volunteer opened the side door of the vehicle to let Willow out, Rollin was not seen.
There will be a change in how the society deals with transporting pets as a result of the incident.
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Post by CielOnTap » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:10 am

There continue to be news articles of kids forgotten in cars while the adults left the vehicles to go somewhere. The kids have died.

Here's an article from Miami, Florida, USA that talks about what happens to a child left in a hot car. Including a mannequin child doll in a test scenario.

Please don't leave your vehicle without checking all seats for people or pets (yes, I have seen cars at Walmarts with unattended dogs inside).

https://www.thespec.com/living-story/73 ... should-do/
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Post by CielOnTap » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:35 pm

A Hamilton, Ontario doctor sat in a hot car while connected to monitors to show how quickly a child left in a hot car can be in danger.
Five minutes in, Dr. Crocco was becoming increasingly uncomfortable.
“His breathing rate increased just slightly,” local paramedic Michelle Greenspoon observed. “His heart rate increased just slightly, so those are signs that his body is compensating.”
Before entering the vehicle, Dr. Crocco explained that extreme temperatures can heat up a car in a very short time. Kids, he said, will quickly start sweating. If they stay in the car much longer, things become incredibly dangerous.
“And then you actually stop sweating, and when you stop sweating your body no longer can control the heat and your heat starts to rise,” Dr. Crocco said.
Covered in sweat on a stretcher and clutching a water bottle, Dr. Crocco said if he is affected by this heat on an overcast day, imagine how much worse the experience could be for a child.
“Very, very quickly these children’s temperatures are going to rise to a very dangerous level,” he told reporters. “So the message is don't let that happen.”
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/ontario-do ... 5ecdfe34fc

In the US this week, a child was left in a car outside a mayor's house. The child's parents did not realize until the next day that their child was left behind.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 490896001/
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Post by CielOnTap » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:45 pm

Unfortunately, pet and child deaths in hot cars continues to occur in Canada and in the USA. This week's stories:

Arizona, USA
Phoenix authorities are investigating the hot-car deaths of two children in as many days.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/29/us/two-ho ... index.html

British Columbia, Canada
In a post published on Friday, the Shaughnessy Veterinary Hospital shared a photo of a dog that died after being left in a hot car the same day.

"People obviously still need to be reminded about this, and to me, the best reminder was the picture of the deceased dog lying on our table in the back of the clinic," veterinarian and hospital owner Leah Montgomery told Global News, speaking about the difficult decision of whether or not to post the photo.

"f that doesn’t hit home to people, I don’t know what else is going to."

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/ ... ing/84624/
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed May 30, 2018 5:17 pm

Two recent incidents with children in hot cars in the province of Ontario. In Burlington, a three year old child was found dead in a hot car in a parking lot.

In Hamilton, a 6 year old in the car of a parent's adult friend was seen in a locked car and the child was noticed by a couple in a Walmart parking lot. Before the man could use his tools to break into the car, the woman asked the boy to unlock the car--which he managed to do.

The father of the dead toddler and the male guardian of the older child were both charged for the incidents.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/0 ... hicle.html
This newspaper link mentions also another recent child in hot car rescue with a 5-month old baby (another incident that occurred today).
The charges come on the same day as Halton police broke the window of a vehicle to rescue a 5-month-old baby locked inside. The car was parked in the Milton Crossroads plaza.

The child was overheated, but declared stable by Halton paramedics.
Last week and also this week, I have seen small dogs left in cars in parking lots. Southern Ontario is having a week of temperatures with humidity making it seem like 33-35C in some cases and sometimes the winds are not gusty even if the car windows have been left open.

Don't leave people or pets in hot vehicles unattended during hot weather. Paved parking will amplify the effects of heat as the sunshine's power is absorbed by the asphalt.
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:28 am

Sadly, there continues to be news of parents in North America leaving small or young children in cars in shopping mall parking lots. https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8666 ... -oakville/
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Post by CielOnTap » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:06 am

Montreal, Quebec is the most recent city in Canada with a baby dead to being forgotten in a hot car.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... e-say.html
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Post by CielOnTap » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:55 pm

It's bad enough that an adult left a child in a hot car while on the test drive. But she had foster children in her care--those kids were removed as a result of the call to Children's Aid.
Police say they began investigating on Monday after an anonymous call was made to the Children’s Aid Society and a Peterborough-area woman was arrested on Thursday.

The woman is charged with abandoning a child and is to appear in court on Aug. 23.

Police say foster children in the woman’s care were removed by the CAS.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/pe ... ew-vehicle
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:17 pm

Why Forgotten Baby or Pet Syndrome happens in hot weather:
Many times, when a child died, there had been a change in the day’s routine, Diamond says. For example, a parent who wouldn’t normally be responsible for day-care drop-off might have been given that task that day. Because our brains recognize a pattern for the day, this parent would drive to work as usual, even though the baby was along for the ride. And unless there was an external cue, such as seeing the diaper bag or hearing the baby, the parent’s brain would continue on autopilot and could even create a false memory that the child is safely at day care, Diamond found. Sleep deprivation and stress can also increase the potential for a working-memory failure.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-saf ... -syndrome/
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:10 pm

Court case outcome for the father of the child who died in a hot car in Burlington, Ontario Canada last year: he received an absolute discharge.
MILTON — A Milton judge said the case of a father charged with accidentally leaving his three-year-old son in a hot car to die is one of the saddest cases she has dealt with.

In giving Shaun Pennell an absolute discharge, Justice Lesley Baldwin said Pennell's family has suffered so much — and continues to suffer.
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9149 ... ton-judge/

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Defence attorney Brian Greenspan said Pennell's actions have already devastated him. In a statement to the court, Jennifer said Pennell cried constantly for months following Wyatt's death.

She also said he has lost weight and has sleep issues and frequent disturbing flashbacks.

"He struggles to make it through the days, but he continues to go to work and provide for his family. He is haunted by what he has done. He knows why our son is no longer here and it is torture," said Jennifer.
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