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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:46 pm

Speak-Ez does not have its own etiquette counsellor in-house, but the team at Speak-Ez certainly discovers social customs in the stories perused for posting on any given day.

Let's start off with the custom of wedding gifts. In South Korea, the custom is to give the newlyweds an envelope of cash at the cashier desk of the reception hall. Some individuals in the higher social strata are rethinking such gifts given the recession and social "face."

Questioning a Korean Wedding Tradition
By CHOE SANG-HUN
Published: November 17, 2009
When a daughter of Kim Jong-chang, South Korea’s top financial regulator, got married last June, Mr. Kim did something unusual: He eliminated the cashier and the cash-filled envelopes.

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Wedding guests hand in cash envelopes to cashiers at a Seoul wedding on Oct. 24. They also get food tickets that allow them to have the meal served after the wedding.

These are fixtures of a South Korean wedding, as much so as the wedding officiant. Before entering the wedding hall, guests line up in front of the cashier’s table to hand over an envelope stuffed with cash. The cashier opens the envelope and registers the guest’s name, and the amount given, in a velvet-covered ledger — often while the guest is still standing there.

“The problem with this tradition is that it can be abused for bribery,” said Mr. Kim, governor of the Financial Supervisory Service, which regulates the South Korean banking and securities industries. “In my case, many banking officials would have shown up with cash gifts. They would have wondered whether I was annoyed that they didn’t put enough in the envelope.”
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Imagine having to collect the meal ticket in order to get food at the reception. Definitely a situation of counting tickets and attendees in order to settle with the caterer on food costs.
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Post by manga2read » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:24 pm

An experience to hope for one day-an invite to a wedding in South Korea! Would need to learn the foods and identify what I could eat. Lots of press attend the celebrity weddings at the hotels.
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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:58 pm

40,000 guests for the wedding of two adult offspring of two well-known families? Showbiz style event wedding is set to go in Pune, India.

40,000 invited to the wedding of Munde's girl
Shailendra Paranjpe / DNAThursday, December 10, 2009 2:30 IST
Mumbai: At least 40,000 people -- including top BJP leaders, chief minister Ashok Chavan, and other dignitaries -- are scheduled to reach Pune on Friday to attend 'the great, grand and royal' wedding of Dr Pritam Munde, daughter of BJP national general secretary Gopinath Munde.

Pritam, a dermatologist, will marry Gaurav Khade, an IT engineer doing his PhD in the US. Gaurav is the son of Dr Rajendra Khade, a well-known radiologist in Nashik.

Apart from top BJP leaders, including leader of the opposition in the Lok Sabha LK Advani, party president Rajnath Singh and leader of the opposition in the Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley, at least half of the state cabinet is expected to attend the wedding at the Shri Shivaji Preparatory Military School (SSPMS) grounds in Shivajinagar. http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_4 ... rl_1322028

Many food stations will be needed and freshly baked naan bread will mean hours of work for the hospitality crew. Let's hope that the event plans include donating leftover food to charities or soup kitchens nearby.
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Post by CielOnTap » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:50 pm

Ambush and wedding are an unlikely pairing of words to use to describe a new marriage. However, a bride managed to surprise her groom and got married in an airport.

Man ambushed with airport wedding

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - A woman in a wedding gown surprised her fiance by greeting him at a Texas airport along with a justice of the peace.

Robyn Moore and William Acosta exchanged vows Monday at Corpus Christi International Airport after he got off a plane arriving from Toledo, Ohio. Photos were taken near a Christmas tree at a security checkpoint.http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Good_News/2 ... 71-ap.html

Definitely they saved on wedding venue fees. The airport, unless the arrangement was cleared ahead of time, might want to bill them for use of the space.
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Post by CielOnTap » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:54 pm

Christmas Eve dip into the freezing body of water, anyone? Swedish folk went for the dip--brave souls, who must be much, much more warmer than me.

Swimmers flock for Christmas dip
Published: 25 Dec 09 08:42 CET

The traditional Christmas swim in the sea near Halmstad, a city on the southwest coast of Sweden has becoming an increasingly popular yuletid event. More than 100 people jumped into the freezing ocean at exactly 11am on Christmas Eve – with even more spectators watching from shore.

“It was like a parade of lemmings down towards the beach. And there was actually a little hint of sun on the horizon,” winter bather Svante Lundgren told TT news agency. http://www.thelocal.se/24050/20091225/
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Post by smitty » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:22 pm

The cost of weddings in some places to yes even Canada is beyond reason. My friends have a lovely looking gal that had to fork out a mint for proper clothing as first girl or whatever.

He parents said something like "if you get married, no special weddings, & instead we will give you $15,000.00 for the start on a home for the two of you. So a few yrs later on she did become married which meant the above money & the parents of their son matched the same money for a home. Now that is smart thinking one has to admit.

So YES I can see the sensible thing of an envelope with money in it instead of ANOTHER toaster or such.

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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:15 pm

Not all brides and grooms indicate to their wedding party chosen just what the cash outlay will be required for outfit, shoes and other details. Toss in about 2 or 3 gift-giving situations--that party invitation just looked worse. It really is not fair to assume that such costs will borne without notice as well as how many functions one has to be at.

It is far better to know what tasks can be delegated among family and friends and spend the money on good food, venue or entertainment and in the company of people you want to celebrate with. While image of the event rates up there with what the bride and groom will wear, knowing that you are $ to the couple dulls the sharpest of appetites.
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed May 05, 2010 8:38 pm

From Canadian Business magazine, May 10, 2010
Gift guide
Gifts: A concise guide to gratitude
How to thank every person on your radar in a manner that is at once appropriate and awesome.

By Kasey Coholan

Gift guide: Brilliant buysThe Star Performer

The challenge: Recognize an employee for closing a big deal with a gift “on par with what they have accomplished,” says Wendy Davis, CEO of Zebrano, a Toronto-based executive concierge service. Consider presentation, too — public gestures can mean a lot.
The gift: These double-walled champagne glasses from Alissia Melka-Teichroew’s InsideOut collection keep the bubbly chilled for hours. Pair them with a bottle of Cristal. US$60 for set of two

The Retiree

The challenge: “It is easy to fall prey to stereotypical gift with retirees,” Davis warns. Stay away from DVD collections that imply long, leisurely days on the couch ahead. “The gift should recognize their personality and at the same time transition them into their new life,” says Davis.
The gift: For an art and travel lover, Wallpaper* City Guides: World Cities Art Fairs set, packaged in a special-edition ribbon-tied box, contains guides to five cities that play host to the world’s most prestigious art fairs and events — Basel, London, Miami, New York and Venice. $60 http://www.canadianbusiness.com/after_h ... medium=rss

Gift-giving can be challenging for one's social circle but having to spend one's after-tax dollars on someone who may or may not be your coworker in a few months is a hard one. Do you gift colleagues for social occasions, have a social fund at work that everyone chips in for monthly or just agree to leave occasions to cards and the one or two after-work bar meetings?

Cash management strategists repeat that if one is living off of their credit cards, the charges have to be investments (i.e. tuition, groceries if needed to help you study), not wants. Don't live beyond your means. If you decide to give a gift that does not come with a name brand, you will know whether to continue the gifting or not depending on the first recipient's reaction.
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Post by CielOnTap » Sun May 30, 2010 10:55 am

Are you a woman motorcyclist wanting to see Asia by motorcycle? Consider your travel plans, as Indonesia bans tight pants for Muslim women, even if they ride motorcycles. Shopkeepers cannot sell short pants or tight pants either. No indication of what safety issues are going to exist with long-skirted motorcyclists or what standards the Islamic police will uniformly implement in determining who is in compliance with the dress code.

Tight-pants ban begins in Indonesia district
May. 27, 2010 06:44 AM
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MEULABOH, Indonesia - Authorities in a devoutly Islamic district of Indonesia's Aceh province have distributed 20,000 long skirts and prohibited shops from selling tight dresses as a regulation banning Muslim women from wearing revealing clothing took effect Thursday.

The long skirts are to be given to Muslim women caught violating the dress code during a two-month campaign to enforce the regulation, said Ramli Mansur, head of West Aceh district. Islamic police will determine whether a woman's clothing violates the dress code, he said.

During raids Thursday, Islamic police caught 18 women traveling on motorbikes who were wearing traditional headscarves but were also dressed in jeans. Each woman was given a long skirt and her pants were confiscated. They were released from police custody after giving their identities and receiving advice from Islamic preachers. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... s-ban.html
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My Big Fat Geek Wedding
Couple's love of science and all things nerdy was a winning formula for unusual wedding
Published On Fri Aug 6 2010
By David Graham
Living reporter
Note: This article has been edited to correct a previously published version.

The couple

When Aneil Gokhale, a self-described dork proposed marriage to Nicole Cheung-Seekit, an admitted science geek using the letters on a Scrabble board, it was inevitable the wedding would come with a high nerd alert.

From the initial “Nicole I Love You. Will You Marry Me,” to the weird science-themed reception, the couple honoured their commitment to the nerd within.

Certainly the two wedding ceremonies, Catholic and Hindu, held July 10, would be romantic and respectful of their religious and cultural traditions.

But cool? Not so much. For example: The invitation was decorated with an intricate cobweb of connected molecules.

The reception's venue — where else — The Ontario Science Centre.

The seating arrangements: Each of the 31 tables was labelled according to the elements of the Periodic Table — Helium and Hydrogen, for starters.http://www.thestar.com/living/article/8 ... ek-wedding

I don't find the decor for the reception weird--it makes sense to use a theme that appeals to both people who will be sharing their day with friends and family. The science centre would be the perfect place to find beakers for the tables! How many seating charts prompt guests to remember the periodic table? Definitely a story for the bride to share with her classes in September.

If there was a wedding planner involved with contacting suppliers, that person had to have been relieved that the couple definitely knew its wants and did not change them.
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Post by CielOnTap » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:16 pm

10/10/10 is wedding perfection
Published On Tue Oct 5 2010

Katie Daubs, Staff Reporter

Shhhh . . . Esther Chang and Michael Kim haven’t told anyone they’re getting married this weekend. Their family and friends think their formal wedding is in Mexico this January. Thing is, getting married in Mexico involves blood work and other red tape if you go the official route. And, a marriage at city hall this Sunday involves a once-in-a-century number: 10/10/10.

The original plan was to quietly get married this Sunday to snag the lucky date and have the big party in Mexico with the bridesmaids and cake on January 10. “We didn’t want to explain it to everyone,” Chang said. “It’s just paperwork,” Kim said of this Sunday’s wedding. “But it will be kind of cool to have that date to look back on.”

At the city hall wedding chamber, other couples think so too. The demand for 10/10/10 weddings has been so high the city took the rare step of relocating to a nearby hotel since the chamber is closed on Sundays. As of Tuesday, 19 weddings have been booked. http://www.thestar.com/news/article/871 ... perfection

There was rush about a month or two ago for another auspicious alignment of numbers in a date on the lunar calendar. But the dates are still on the Gregorian calendar so what are the lunar calendar equivalent dates?
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Post by CielOnTap » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:20 pm

Budget weddings in Hong Kong McDonald's amongst patrons eating their meals? Would you opt for such a celebration for your marriage?

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Post by smitty » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:44 pm

I wonder if women should be riding SIDE SADDLE? If pillion it is not such a thing, but it THEY are riding them some drastic changes are needed to the bike.

It is basically jeans for most women & men in Canada. I am one of the rare ones that ALSO wears a pair of protective though water-proof so good in cold weather to a jacket a bit longer like to over my hips & in colder weather the OTHER layer is liner that goes on inside with some snap spots & zippers.

Can you just imagine a woman on a m/c with a full face or 3/4 helmet & a scarf over the helmet? No I cannot.

No sandals for me as I wear a set of Daner 'Fort Lewis' boots that are not a racing boot, but a dutry boot & fully waterproof.

No scarf over the heads of women riders here, but a 3/4 or full-face helmet & in a while the women will realize GOOD gloves as we used it road racing is ideal for they are so protective. Not that one intends to have an accident, but really one never knows for sure.

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Post by smitty » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:44 pm

i have to tell all of you this one since CielOnTap came up with many women in some religious groups cannot ride a m/c with tight pants.

This started from a Triumph Trophy I had modified to make it an ideal bike in the bush for a customer. Seeme he had traded it in on a m/c dealer in Calgary & knew it would be at a low price.

I wanted to hop on my 1000cc Vincent HRD to travel down & arrange for a friend to haul the bike back on the proper truck. ONLY my Vincent HRD was in trouble. So owner Ed told me to take his Royal Enfield 500cc. I knew I would be in trouble with the bars in fashion putting most of my weight on my spine.

Fortunately made it, did the deal & bike was hauled back to Edmonton.

On the way back my back was KILLING ME so I pulled over for a ham sandwich & was NOW riding side saddle & clocking a lot of miles.
I must have fallen to sleep, yet made all the bends, but the Grey Hound Bus nealy scared me to death & AWAKE. That whas when I rode into the ditch but noted I had half of the sandwich & my bite on that part.

I told Ed that those stupid Flanders Bars just about crippled me & no wonder when travelling down to Calgary we had to stop at a hotel & sort of help him in like a drunk though it was his back that was in trouble. Back to Edmonton, from Calgary, we helped him into his home with moans & groans. His wife blamed it on being in a Tank & hit during WWII, but she was wrong for I FELT THE SAME THING. There is no back reast like on a car or a truck.

So if the women road m/cs side saddle with a skirt I do not think they would get any distance befoe the athorities came down on the wrong thing again.

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Post by smitty » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:21 am

I think most women riding pillion tend to sit in the normal position with a good backrest & place for their feet.

Still when riding alone, nothing about eye opener right leather pants, but more like good protective pants in case they accidently come down. The problem is trying to obtain a correct size for a woman, but most come up with the proper ones & with a narrow foot they do not fit well into EEE width most men's boots are. Personally I only wear a size 11 with a width of C & am a male, but have fitted a lot of men & women with proper climbing, or skiing boots. After ski boots were so easy to find for male or women.

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Post by smitty » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:25 pm

Some years ago a gal in her 20s & her mother came into our sport shop. What attracted her were the sweaters knitted by Pacific Coast women. She was all for one in white, but told her the darker finish was better so she bought one.

We also had quick wrap around skirts in many of the patterns of the different Scottish people. Bought several.

He mother stated that FINALLY she had what she had missed when on her trip over to the continent of Europe. I thought for a second & said I could alswer that. Mailed up a scooter customer of a lambretta schooter knowing it would be in best of order.

The gal had mentioned the bit of not riding in side saddle form. I guess she did not bother to ask around when in Europe. The scooter there clean as could be. She wore one of the quick wrap around Black Watch skirts, had her arms around my waist as I went to the Cave & Basin to have her follow me, same with the mother, for she was in a cag on all runs. Took her to the Upper Hot Springs to look around, then finally down to their costly CPR hotel. Got a kiss from the mother & the daughter as well. So a few less hours at the sport shop, but it was good in what they purchased.

This was NOT in the days of crash helmets, for it was ealy in the 50s & the MUST to wear helmets did not come into effect till '56 here in Canada. I wore a baret or a tweed cap in those days.

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Post by CielOnTap » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:17 pm

Smitty, you were something of a wish concierge in addition to a store manager! Your story also points out that there seemed to be more interest in getting sights seen then worrying about the mode of sightseeing. How brave of you to lead the visitors around without a helmet.

Imagine trying something like that trip nowadays-liability insurance forms signed and in duplicate, a contract for duration of tour and conditions, safety gear and attire, permissions obtained from destinations (sometimes hard to photograph without being a guest or having someone's say so to do so)...
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Post by CielOnTap » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:14 pm

With the common use of social media platforms for communications, do refrain from:
1) posting all kinds of personal facts/conversations on your own and your friends' pages. It is not worth the loss of friends and the Internet is full of search engines/archives. Just don't do it!

2) posting photos of other people without permission. A photo album at home is one thing, while an online album is a creature of digital persuasion and at risk of going away without a trace. Know what your country's laws are on privacy and know your platform's policy on content (ownership/re-use, etc.).

3) talking in reality as though texting language is the actual way of talking in English or whatever your native language is. Not admired much unless maybe you have a job in advertising that benefits from such knowledge.
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Post by CielOnTap » Sat May 13, 2017 9:21 pm

Next month, the Smithsonian television channel in the United States will air a Bollywood wedding special. Three couples with Indian heritage (on one or both sides) will be shown at their weddings reflecting customs and apparel on their big days.
http://www.theknotnews.com/big-bollywoo ... paign=news
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